I've been reading about discipline and trying to figure out what is appropriate for a 2-year old and I realize, the one who I'm struggling with regarding discipline is Milo. Nora basically has one discipline issue, and that is whining (and the associated fake crying). I'm trying to talk about using a big girl voice, I pretend I can't understand her when she's whining, but none of these tactics are working all that well. She whines and fusses because she's stressing out or freaking out (basically when I don't hold her because I'm trying to cook or something), so I don't think she's very good yet at being able to tone it down.
Otherwise, though, Nora is a good listener. She doesn't throw stuff. She doesn't try to kill the cats. And she is not aggressive with other people, i.e., Milo. If some egregious act is perpetrated upon her, she's basically a verbal responder. She'll yell and cry about how Milo took this that or the other from her, and yell at him to give it back. But that's about as bad as it gets. Nora also responds well to suggestions like putting away her toys, and is eager to help. (However, I have to amend this to note that since writing this, Nora
did kick Milo in the face, so things aren't all perfect for her!)
Milo, though...ah, Milo. The kids' strengths are so different. Milo is great with other people, not at all shy, and he is friendly and outgoing. This makes things like nanny transitions a piece of cake for Milo. But he is also the one who keeps doing things that have me diving into the books to figure out the "right" way to discipline him.
Milo is very aggressive with Nora. He constantly snatches things out of her hands. He just goes right after her and grabs whatever it is she is holding and tears it right out of her tight little grip, causing her to scream and yell. He does this all the time. Milo has also been known to do things like forcibly pull Nora off a stool, making her fall and hit her mouth. Milo also still throws his food during mealtime (an old standby) and throws his toys (rarely these days, at least). Most of the discipline stuff comes out of sibling rivalry with Nora.
Okay, so two-year olds aren't so great at logic yet. They need immediate consequences that are gentle and delivered with empathy, but get to the heart of the infraction. Every time I see Milo trying to wrench something out of Nora's hands (or hitting her hand to get at it), I obviously prevent him from doing it. But is it also time to maybe put him in time-out for a minute? The consequence for a 2-year old needs to be pretty clear cut. So lately I've been making him sit down wherever he is for a few seconds, to calm down. Usually at this point Milo is angry that I have foiled the success of his toy-snatching plan. So at this point my lame discipline attempt is a) prevent toy snatching, and b) gently sit him down for a few seconds until he calms down. Oh, and I'll have him apologize to Nora.
We also do talk about empathy a lot, or rather I'm trying to foster empathy and I talk about how angry and sad Nora gets when Milo takes his toy. I also talk about how happy Nora is when Milo gives her something or lets her keep what she is playing with. The empathy stuff seems to be working better than anything, and has spurred both of them to give things to one another and spontaneously share more than they used to. Usually after a few minutes with whatever toy Milo wanted, I'll then ask Nora if she's ready to give it to him, which she often is.
Well anyway, these reactions on my part haven't really extinguished the behavior so maybe I should be doing something more. I don't know. The toy throwing is easy -- if you throw a toy, you lose the toy. No lecturing or anything, just a sad "uh oh, toys aren't for throwing, we have to say bye to the toy". Then I'll encourage Milo to throw a ball if he wants to throw something. This strategy has worked pretty well and Milo doesn't throw toys much anymore.
Throwing food at dinner, however, is something that drives me nuts and he keeps doing it. I know that part of the problem is that I haven't yet resorted to the most logical thing to do: "Uh oh, you're throwing food, looks like dinner is all done for you" and immediately get him down and end the meal. My reluctance to do this is because he is still on the cusp of underweight and not a great eater, and also I think Milo would
like to get down and end the meal. So I'm not sure if it would extinguish the behavior, or if it would just encourage it. But what else to do? One thing we do is as soon as he starts throwing something, we immediately take it away and he doesn't get that food any more. But usually he only throws because he's not interested in that food anyway.
One thing Milo responds to very well is having choices. I love this technique. If he doesn't want to go upstairs to get his diaper changed, and starts wailing and fussing and refusing to do it, I'll ask "Do you want to walk up the stairs yourself, or do you want me to carry you up the stairs?" He'll respond with a cheerful "Walk yourself!" and boom, problem fixed. I'm trying to remember to give the kids choices all the time, not just when I'm trying to fix a problem or make them do something they don't want to do.
The choice thing with Nora sort of works, but she definitely views it with suspicion. Sometimes she clues in to the fact that she is not a huge fan of either choice.
I think one reason I am trying to read about discipline is that I don't have a lot of confidence about what is fair and appropriate for a two-year old who has such limited concepts of time, cause and effect relationships, logic, consequences, etc. I feel pretty confident about how I'd deal with a 5-year old, or an 8-year old, and once we're in the pre-teen and teen years, I feel very comfortable with that since I have so much experience with older kids. But something that is reasonable to a 5-year old is obviously not going to be reasonable for a 2-year old who doesn't even really get the notion of "tomorrow" and "yesterday". So what is reasonable? It's tricky. I don't want to raise a couple of assholes who are undisciplined and think they can behave rudely to people. But I also don't want to spend a lot of energy doing discipline techniques that only confuse or upset them.
Any advice welcome from anybody, as long as you're not my mother in law.
To end on a sort of funny note, Nora has started to develop this behavior that's...I don't exactly know how to describe it. It's not exactly manipulative, per se, and it's not completely dishonest, but it does involve some thinking ahead. For instance, she loves to have medicine because it tastes good. Nora has also noticed that when I figure out that she has a tooth coming through and she is in pain, I'll give her some Tylenol. So now, even when she doesn't have a tooth coming in but gets a hankering for some of that sweet medicine, she'll say "My mouth hurts." Big pause. And then, like it's a totally new idea that she just came up with on the spot, "Want medicine?" Like oh, hey, uh, my mouth hurts. I wonder what we can do about that. Hey, maybe some medicine? How's that for an idea?
This morning the kids were downstairs with Jake and I went upstairs to take a shower, which Nora did not appreciate. She really wanted to be upstairs with me, and she was fussing about it and crying some. Then she went to Jake and said, "Want to sit on the potty? Want to pee in the potty?" Jake was all, okay, great, I'm glad you told me, let's go! Thus taking her upstairs, which is where she wanted to go all along. As Nora's climbing up the stairs I hear her chattering her little inner monologue, totally blowing the whole "potty" cover: "I'm going upstairs to see Mommy! Mommy Mommy Mommy! I'm going to see Mommy in the shower! [maniacal laughter] Mommy!"